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neonvincent) wrote2017-07-22 08:38 pm
neonvincent) wrote2017-07-22 08:38 pm
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Saved comment from November 2016 about the election
My comment on The Fat Lady Has a Sore Throat.
"2) Perhaps as a function of No. 1, it ends up in the US House of Representatives. The catch is: members aren’t limited to Trump or HRC. They can vote for whoever they like."
No, that's not exactly true. Here is the relevant passage of the 12th Amendment, which reformed presidential elections.
"The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President."
Unless Evan McMullin wins Utah or Gary Johnson wins New Mexico, the states where they are most likely to get electoral votes, or the faithless elector in Washington goes through with his threat to vote for Bernie Sanders, the House of Representatives will have to chose between Trump and Clinton. Even if all of the above happens, the House will still chose only among three. McMullin, the former CIA agent and proxy for the Deep State, will get the nod as Utah has six electoral votes to New Mexico's five. In any case, I'd give the advantage to Trump because of the next part.
"But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice."
More congressional delegations have Republican majorities than Democratic ones, so Trump would win unless McMullin qualifies and the Deep State prevails. Given the FBI's behavior, I doubt the security apparatus has its act together enough to make that happen.
"What waits around the corner is a global scramble for the table scraps of the late techno-industrial banquet. Scrambles like that are liable to foment kinetic conflict. Neither Hillary or Trump appear to have a clue what this means and so they are likely to misinterpret the true signals amid all the noise and start an unnecessary war."
You're right, neither of them do. In the case of Trump, this showed up over the weekend in his proposal for a grandiose space plan that puts Newt Gingrich to shame. If he had any idea about what a future of resource depletion would mean for a space program that ambitious, he would propose something just as impressive sounding that might actually do something on Earth. Then again, I'm a space enthusiast and I actually like his idea, although rooting for Trump to win so that it would be implemented is like hoping for the alternative history in "The Man in the High Castle" to be real so there could be commercial SSTs in the early 1960s. The cost is too high.
Speaking of dystopian science fiction, Bill Maher praised Hillary Clinton a couple of weeks ago as the “cold, technocratic boss lady in a pantsuit” from movies like "Hunger Games: Mockingjay," "Divergent," and "The Giver." Yes, he was comparing her favorably to the villains and saying that was exactly what the U.S. needed. Well, it beats being ruled by Donald Trump as Immortan Joe from "Mad Max: Fury Road."
"2) Perhaps as a function of No. 1, it ends up in the US House of Representatives. The catch is: members aren’t limited to Trump or HRC. They can vote for whoever they like."
No, that's not exactly true. Here is the relevant passage of the 12th Amendment, which reformed presidential elections.
"The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President."
Unless Evan McMullin wins Utah or Gary Johnson wins New Mexico, the states where they are most likely to get electoral votes, or the faithless elector in Washington goes through with his threat to vote for Bernie Sanders, the House of Representatives will have to chose between Trump and Clinton. Even if all of the above happens, the House will still chose only among three. McMullin, the former CIA agent and proxy for the Deep State, will get the nod as Utah has six electoral votes to New Mexico's five. In any case, I'd give the advantage to Trump because of the next part.
"But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice."
More congressional delegations have Republican majorities than Democratic ones, so Trump would win unless McMullin qualifies and the Deep State prevails. Given the FBI's behavior, I doubt the security apparatus has its act together enough to make that happen.
"What waits around the corner is a global scramble for the table scraps of the late techno-industrial banquet. Scrambles like that are liable to foment kinetic conflict. Neither Hillary or Trump appear to have a clue what this means and so they are likely to misinterpret the true signals amid all the noise and start an unnecessary war."
You're right, neither of them do. In the case of Trump, this showed up over the weekend in his proposal for a grandiose space plan that puts Newt Gingrich to shame. If he had any idea about what a future of resource depletion would mean for a space program that ambitious, he would propose something just as impressive sounding that might actually do something on Earth. Then again, I'm a space enthusiast and I actually like his idea, although rooting for Trump to win so that it would be implemented is like hoping for the alternative history in "The Man in the High Castle" to be real so there could be commercial SSTs in the early 1960s. The cost is too high.
Speaking of dystopian science fiction, Bill Maher praised Hillary Clinton a couple of weeks ago as the “cold, technocratic boss lady in a pantsuit” from movies like "Hunger Games: Mockingjay," "Divergent," and "The Giver." Yes, he was comparing her favorably to the villains and saying that was exactly what the U.S. needed. Well, it beats being ruled by Donald Trump as Immortan Joe from "Mad Max: Fury Road."