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I saved one comment in February, my response to another comment on Perched on the Wheel of Time. If it looks familiar, it's because I used the first two paragraphs in 'The Walking Dead' vs. 'Westworld' at the 2017 Saturn Awards. As for last paragraph I wrote, I did ask at the liberal prepper groups if they participated in the SCA and if the archaic skills they practiced helped with their survivalism. A significant number of them said yes.

Me: @Armata: You were right to point to American popular culture for evidence that people are afraid that progress may be coming to a halt and soon, but the way you used your examples works against you with people who know television. In particular, your statement that "The most popular TV show right now is Game of Thrones, based on George RR Martin’s 'A Song of Fire and Ice' novels" requires closer examination. "Game of Thrones" may be the most award-winning drama on American television today with a record 39 Emmy Awards over its run, but if by "most popular" you meant "most watched," it most assuredly is not. According to Indiewire, it came in 38th among viewers of all ages and sixth among TV watchers aged 18-49 during the 2015-2016 season, the most recent in which the series aired.

The more popular show exemplifying Americans' anxiety about the end of progress is "The Walking Dead," which came in fourth among all viewers and first among those aged 18-49, making it, not "Game of Thrones," the most watched show on cable with nearly twice as many viewers. That's a fast-collapse show, but the series is now in its seventh season and has finally reached the stage where most of the rubble has stopped bouncing, so the conflict driving the drama has become a struggle for power among groups of survivors, including a barbarian warband that ironically (or maybe not) sees itself as the "Saviors of Civilization," instead of a fight for survival against the undead. That written, "Game of Thrones" makes your point that "Winter is coming" and people are aware it may be approaching in the real world as well. It's just not as salient an example as you made it out to be.

On another note, I'm a member of several "liberal prepper" groups on Facebook. I'll ask the members if any of them participate in the SCA and, if so, whether their historical reenacting has given them any survival skills. Coincidentally enough, one of the communities of survivors in "The Walking Dead" grew up around a park where Eighteenth and Nineteenth Century crafts were recreated for visitors. In the series, that was an intentional choice for those survivors, not an accident.

Justin: Pinku-Sensei, agreed about The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones. I watched the first episode of the current season of the walking dead, and wow, that was some brutal stuff. If sufficient transcripts survive, no doubt that future historians will study that show. Game of Thrones is interesting too. "Winter is coming" is certainly appropriate. Of course, the whole theme was thought up by GRRM in the 90's - although who knows what GRRM thinks about industrial civilization. He's certainly a smart fellow.
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Continuing with saving comments. This month, it's one that I left at Kunstler's blog as well as the last comment I left and the now departed The Archdruid Report.

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I only have one from last month, an exchange in comments to my Booman Tribune Weather Channel diary.

"[S]uch measures will not affect the thinking of a single Trump voter and will cause the jackasses to bray and dig their hoofs in even further."

Remember, we Democrats are the donkeys and the Republicans are the elephants. That sentence should have read 'the elephants will trumpet and dig their feet in deeper.'

neonvincent: For general posts about politics not covered by other icons (Uncle V wants you)
Continuing from May's saved comments, here is my one saved comment from April. Since there is only one, I'm not putting it behind a cut. It's my reaction to finding out that Steve Bannon is a fan of 'The Fourth Turning' on Booman Tribune.

My response to a comment on "No Pressure Writing" at Booman Tribune.

"Well Bannon is sure that winter is coming, so there may be less difference between game of thrones and the White House than we all thought."

I'm actually a fan of "The Fourth Turning," so it distresses me that Bannon is both misusing the ideas in the book and ignoring the parts of the authors' theory of cyclical history that he finds inconvenient for his purposes, like the importance of the Millennials in determining how the crisis will turn out. This Business Insider article does a good job of outlining both, while the following video from The Huffington Post concentrates more on the ends that Bannon wants more than the means of the book.


Trump’s top adviser thinks we’re in “the great Fourth Turning in American history."

I'm going to have to write a diary about this topic later. Right now, I'll satisfy myself with a first draft of adapting Kung Fu Monkey's joke about "Atlas Shrugged" and "Lord of the Rings."

There are two books that warn that "Winter is coming," "A Game of Thrones" and "The Fourth Turning." One will turn its readers into people who look forward to a crisis that will redeem the country after a decade or more of war, depression, and civil strife. The other one has White Walkers as villains.

(Add this source for any entry: Bannon’s Worldview: Dissecting the Message of ‘The Fourth Turning’. Also put the wish for Trump to "Fire Bannon" in context by including the MSNBC video "The Cult Of Personality Of Steve Bannon.")
neonvincent: For posts about cats and activities involving uniforms. (Krosp)
One of today's "On This Day" notifications on Facebook was the first status I wrote on this computer two years ago.  That made me a bit anxious, as my desktops have lasted about two years on average before they either become obsolete or something bad befalls them.  That compounded another anxiety of mine, that I would lose the comments I've saved on my desktop computer that I sometimes recycle for blog posts.  A recent event made that anxiety more acute; the closing of The Archdruid Report and The Well of Galabes, complete with the loss of all my comments there.  I have all of them from January 2015 to the present saved, but all of them from 2013 and 2014, including some that I thought needed re-examination, are all lost.  I don't want that to happen to the rest because of computer failure, so I'm saving them here in reverse chronological order, beginning with the ones from May 2017.  Most are from Kunstler's blog, but there are also comments from Booman Tribune and The Well of Galabes.

Saved comments from Kunstler's blog, Well of Galabes, and Booman Tribune behind this text. )

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